Comments on: First week of Aikido http://www.cjc.org/blog/archives/2004/09/16/first-week-of-aikido/ Sun, 26 Sep 2010 03:06:45 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.8 By: Cheng http://www.cjc.org/blog/archives/2004/09/16/first-week-of-aikido/comment-page-1/#comment-882 Sat, 03 Sep 2005 12:43:37 +0000 /?p=128902#comment-882 I found out later that there’s a Japanese jujitsu dojo — Hillcrest Martial Arts — about five minutes drive further than Cleveland Aikikai. I haven’t checked them out, mainly because their adult classes are only twice a week and conflict with judo. They also look unbearably stiff in their available test video, after the jujitsu I did in New York, and especially after doing aikido.

I’ve also found, after almost a year here, that Lakewood’s YMCA has a aikido/taihojutsu class. Their schedule isn’t as bad, but still has far fewer classes than Cleveland Aikikai, and no weekend classes in particular.

After about a year of sometimes spotty attendence (scheduling reasons rather than lack of interest; I really want to do more aikido), I’m actually flowing with aikido technique a bit better. I haven’t done a kyu test there yet, but will probably do a 4th kyu test in the next testing period in October.

I’m not “worried” about style differences. I actually find them fascinating: why are you doing this instead of that? Does it help? That sort of thing. It’s also illuminating, because you can sometimes see what affect relatively small variations in technique have, in terms of specific effectiveness, in terms of how nage/tori has to move because things are done a little differently, in terms of philosophy, in terms of how the technique works.

(I had an interesting experience the other day grabbing one of the shodans and then moving like a judoka doing randori while he tried to do aiki-waza. He actually did throw me once, though I suppose I could have thrown him multiple times if I were actually fully commiting to the judo throws (he’s older and I’m not convinced he could have taken the hard ukemi). One thing this exercise pointed out is the importance of aikido proper distance in getting their techniques to work. It’s not just a matter of being far enough away so that uke has to step to attack: uke has to be far enough away so that an effective attack has to have enough energy for the aikidoka to work with. Entering as a judoka, without being committed in any particular grip, really screwed up the aiki-waza, because I wasn’t providing much energy to work with, and, when I did get my grip and starting working for a throw, I was too close to do effective aiki-waza, given that I was following lead and countering. You can also see that judo is a sport constrained by particular rules: I wouldn’t be able to enter like that in, say, a fight, because I would be kept back by strikes.)

Still, jujitsu-style technique comes out frequently, mainly because muscle memory is so built in.

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By: Shannon http://www.cjc.org/blog/archives/2004/09/16/first-week-of-aikido/comment-page-1/#comment-867 Fri, 02 Sep 2005 04:01:14 +0000 /?p=128902#comment-867 I like the comment about “We’re your second choice – because you couldn’t find jujitsu”. In in that very same boat. Im well versed in jujitsu (as well as Muay Thai, Kenpo Karate, and some Bjj), but can’t find a decent dojo. Or ANY jujitsu dojo, for that matter. There is an Aikido dojo closeby – inexpensive – clean – nice -Im just really worried about the style differences. I will be the oddball “jujitsu guy” always trying to flow with a non-aikido technique.

Shannon

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By: Matt http://www.cjc.org/blog/archives/2004/09/16/first-week-of-aikido/comment-page-1/#comment-186 Tue, 12 Oct 2004 21:57:29 +0000 /?p=128902#comment-186 You can apply the lock any time you want. My impression is that you don’t do it right away because you want to learn to control the person first.(And learn more about feeling their energy)

Example: When we practice iriminage, we often take Uke in a full 360 degree move.
They also mention though that in a real situation you might only do the initial part of iriminage, bringing Uke to the ground in a forceful manner. If you do it quickly they may hit the concrete (or whatever surface) with their knees or face and they won’t get up to finish the move.

In Aikido I’ve noticed that certain activities seem more like an exercise in dynamics so that you can understand proper footwork and all that. (I wish I worded that better.) See what I mean?

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